Do you claim to be "straight?"
Okay are you willing to perform fellatio?
I really cannot understand a YES to BOTH!
How can you claim actually being straight, if you perform fellatio at all?
Then there are gay guys that won't perform it.
I can see gay guys NOT performing it,
but how do you call yourself straight if you will do anything at all with your own gender?
This just doesn't compute.
I even asked Spok about this strange claim.
and do you know what he declared?
"That is illogical!"
"Well, now that's what I thought!"
I retorted.
Ok, back to seriousness now!
I define BISEXUALITY by CLEARLY STATING,
willing to partake sexually with both genders while showing an interest in both sexes.
I always believed that if you will do anything at all with your own and/or opposite gender, then you must be BI.
Look at it this way.
Imagine a scale having values from 0 to 100,
with the 0 being completely gay while 100 indicates totally straight.
It shows you are at absolute 0.
Then this reading shows that you will never be interested at all with the opposite gender, meaning that you will never touch them or even be curious about it.
It shows you are at absolute 100.
Then this reading shows that you are ONLY interested in the OPPOSITE SEX though, so you will never even consider any activity with your own sex!
Are you with me so far?
I hope so, since I was getting ready to inform you of our future.
What do you think the FUTURE is?
So, if you are anywhere between 1 & 99, then you are bisexual by default. This includes any curious feelings about either/both sexes.
We know BISEXUAL NEVER means you MUST be equally attracted to BOTH sexes.
It could mean an attraction be anywhere from 90/10, — to 10/90, and anywhere between these.
Consider an interest in mostly men, while being male, they could think of you as being "HOMO-flexible."
However, if you instead are mainly going after the opposite sex, then you would be "HETERO-flexible."
BOTH are degrees of......BISEXUALITY
There are many other orientations that are degrees of BISEXUAL, such as
PANSEXUAL & much much more!!
Just feast your eyes on this extensive list!!
In conclusion, if you research this then you will discover that Freud declared we are
all born innately bisexual.
This concludes the article
If you're interested, find comments from my original post on the original site, BELOW.
VegasCandaulist
Honestly prior to all the labels society and organizations has developed over time I agree with you to the definition to bisexual, however, if you researched to the definitions of each sexuality there is a reason for these labels to exist. I have learned to adapt to the changes of this day and age and accept most changes that only make sense in the end.
Sep 5, 2018·
novissbliss
The more you define something the less meaning it has..
Sep 8, 2018·
closet_slave
Some people don't identify as bisexual out of personal preference. They may like the feeling of being forced to do something taboo, as in forced bisexuality, instead of willingly going for it. Then there are those that are personally in the closet and refuse to admit to themselves that they are interested in the same sex. They reserve themselves to personal fantasies and never "come out". It depends on each persons own preference, their upbringing, how they view the lifestyle and society and how they see themselves fitting into the world. We all grew up with a different past. some people veer toward bisexuality out of curiosity, others because of trauma, and others because of lust, and still others out of sheer open mindedness. Yes, If you call a rose by any other name, it would smell just a sweet. But your sense of smell and mine may have vastly different perceptions of sweetness.
I say "what ever floats your boat". I know what I like, my motivations, and what I like to call it. If you have your own sensibilities and prefer to indulge in your own preferences under a different emotional set of rules and titles, it is not my place to correct you. The great conundrum of the human condition: the only thing normal about the world is that no one is normal. Have your cake and eat it too, just please let me watch.
Sep 10, 2018·
NewdChris
Very interesting, first of all how would you be bi out of trauma? Wait a moment, are you speaking of someone who perhaps was molested? They then turned into a different sexuality? I feel like I am open minded so that may be why I am bi. No one is normal is absolutely correct. The only way I might define normal is the majority. If the majority of people ran around nude, then they would have to be normal, right? But unfortunately only a few people know that the human body is beautiful and don't have a hang up about it so we remain in the minority.
As far as letting you watch, I have been trying over & over again with no success of anyone who watches me.
Sep 10, 2018
closet_slave
Yes, molestation is one type of trauma.
But to answer your question, we are all on our own path, so the titles we take on may not be what everyone thinks it is.
If a guy says he is strait, but likes to suck cock, then he identifies as strait, and likes to indulge sometimes. I would call this strait with bi tenancies. you are right that, by the normal definition of strait, they are not. but they may feel a stigma about identifying with anything but strait. for some people there is only black and white, no grey. you are either strait or gay, there is no middle ground. one is good, the other is bad, and they refuse to identify with what they believe is bad, so they stick to being "strait" even tho they enjoy the occasional trip down same-sex avenue.
Sep 10, 2018·
Eclectic_Erotic
As somebody who loves the English language, it offends my sensibilities when ppl call themselves "straight" when they continue to have sex with the same gender. You're not straight if you let guys suck your cock, sorry to let you know. Maybe you're the fetlife definition of hetero-flexible, which puts you as preferring the opposite gender, but also indulging in same sex fun.
As for me, I knew I was bisexual for as long as I can remember. Always liked boys and girls and played with both. Never ever had a coming out aha moment because of that. I like to say I'm a gold star bisexual!
Oh and yes labels DO MATTER. To say otherwise is dishonest and not logical!
Sep 11, 2018·
VegasNudist_55
People have told me there is no such thing as a bi male. Either a guy sucks dick or he doesn't. I do not believe that but to each their own
Sep 11, 2018·
NewdChris
If you are a male who lets another guy blow him, then you are not totally straight. I can see that! You are still taking on the masculine role though. The gay /bi guy is still taking on the female role in his desire to blow the other guy. So I would have to agree that he is Hetroflexible to be able to let another guy blow him. The guy who is willing to give him head to the part of the female role of blowing another man.
Sep 18, 2018
closet_slave
Check out the Kinsey Scale. It describes heterosexuality vs. homosexuality idealizations and actions on a more fluid measure than just black and white. I find it more agreeable with the actual spectrum of the human condition.
Sep 26, 2018·
FunVenturaCouple
About 10 years ago I (the male on this profile) was asking this very question of myself. At the time I was hosting and facilitating the largest ongoing monthly poly function in the Seattle area and so I created a discussion on this topic.
At that time, pansexual and queer, were terms that were so unfamiliar they were rarely used which made the discussion a little more cut and dry.
As the 90 minute discussion boiled down terms and meanings what stuck with me was the idea that someone bi will seek to date, go out with, be intimate with and fall in love with both the M and F gender somewhat equally.
With that definition I am able to see clearly that my wife is bi and I am hetro-flexible.
Where I continue getting confusion though when I see men label themselves as being bi, or looking for a bi couple to play with, is; by labeling themselves as bi does that mean they want to have another man suck their cock, do they want to suck another mans cock, do they want to fuck another man in the ass or do they want to get fucked in the ass by another man? Seems many bi men are one of these but not all four and my thoughts about a man who identifies as bi is that he enjoys all 4 activities with another man. Your thoughts?
Oct 1, 2018·
FunVenturaCouple
@Eclectic_Erotic I have the same issue with swingers who identify as being monogamous because they don't get involved with anyone emotionally other than their ONE partner and think of having sex with someone else as nothing different than having dinner with someone else and so even though they are having sex with more than one person they call themselves monogamous.
Oct 1, 2018·
Eclectic_Erotic
@FunVenturaCouple I'd be perfectly cool with that kind of couple.
Oct 1, 2018·
NewdChris
@FunVenturaCouple technically all 4 of them are not required to be bi. I have heard of gay guys that don't suck dick as per above. I am not big on anal but since I have been bi my whole life and I have been with a lot of guys, I am very oral as well as being able to give a great bj for the guy who loves to play with me. I think that just the fact that you are willing to be with him, that alone is a good indicator that you are bi. You just have different reasons for your attraction to the other people.
It's the same thing as if you are not interested in certain things with your wife but it does not mean that you are not straight, if you have no desire for those things.
Oct 3, 2018
AlaceAmory
homoromantic, heteroflexible, bisexual, pansexual....etc etc. So many different variations but in general society most people say if you will have anything to do with men & women then we're bi.
Oct 10, 2018·
NewdChris
Exactly Amory, that is what I said. Anything to do with or even if you are curious about both of them, you are bi. I have also heard of omni and demi, you are absolutely correct, so many different ways to describe it.
Thanks for the comment.
Oct 10, 2018
closet_slave
I have heard that bisexual doesnt accurately describe thoes that are attracted to transexuals. The most socially accepted label I have encountered is pansexual. Basically you dont care what a persons birth gender or reassigned gender is, you are attracted to them all, depending on personality of course. The most confusing label ive heard someone describe themslelves as is gender-fluid.
but I realize there are two different types of gender identity: what you identify as, and what your attracted to. for instance you could have a gender fluid male that is exclusively attracted to women. so essentially you arestrait. or you identify as gay, but have bisexual tendancies and are open to playing with women, but are only emotionally attracted to men.
There are so many lables on gender society now a days, I just say I dont care whats between your legs, just use me good.
Oct 11, 2018·
closet_slave
@FunVenturaCouple the Gay community has a great lable for who likes what: top likes to fuck, bottom likes to be fucked, oral top likes to only be sucked, oral bottom likes to only suck, and versatile is open to a combination of the 4. I feel that there has been a steriotype of either gay or strait for so long, that this label doeant really carry over to bisexual men because there is a new kind of homophobia. Not a fear of gays, but a fear of being identified as ONLY liking men. you will find on several swinger profiles that alot of men are actually bisexual, but identify as strait as to not scare off homophobic husbands of potential couples. Even swinger clubs frown on, if not openly ban guy on guy action. Most venues open to male bisexuality either are specifically oriented house parties or gay clubs.
Oct 11, 2018·
NewdChris
I think that I both understand what you mean as well as agree with you 100 percent, I think. I was going to change my profile as pan, but after your input I will remain bi all the way.
I believe that I am bi and appropriately love both, men and women. Now for others who are non binary who say they are neither male or female, or these trans people or CD or TV or other venues in the world of gender, I am not sure if I have any further attraction for them.
When you get into gender identity, this is where they are very different from the rest of us. And it is just too perplexing for us to even fathom. For someone who does know and can answer, can you tell us how a non binary human can use a public restroom?
Again thank you for all your comments and continued support of my bisexuality and the discussion of the definition of bisexuality.
Oct 11, 2018
FunVenturaCouple
@closet_slave Insightful. Thank you.
As the Co-Founders of Non-Monogomous Lifestyles Association we find similar confusion around Non-Monogamy. So pervasive is the grip of monogamy on our society that those who have recreational sex with others and remain steadfast in their emotions and commitment to the one and only in their lives continue to say they are monogamous. It's almost like there is something inherently wrong with being non-monogomous.
Oct 11, 2018·
NewdChris
Well I am willing to tell you about my utmost worst case scenario of a bisexual. It gets broken down like this.
It does not matter how you define it, being bi is not the way to go through life. I don't want to elaborate more on the topic here, but I am completely free to explain all of this to anyone else who might be interested. So go to my bisexuality group under my profile and it will all be exactly explained to you.
Oct 11, 2018
closet_slave
@FunVenturaCouple I believe what you are describing is similar to the situation I mentioned above. That there is such a stigma against homosexuality that bisexual men don't identify as bisexual in swinger sights.
The concept of non-monogamy may also have a similar social stigma with possibly being related to polygamy or polyamory. Swinging has been touted as basically treating casual sex as a hobby, while you still remain emotionally faithful to your life partner. As a apposed to cheating where you are not remaining emotionally faithful. But non-monogamy may have a social equals sign to polygamy, which holds it's own stigma in the conservative world. Swingers that want to shy away from the emotional aspects of alternative lifestyles are probably the ones that decide to self-identify as monogamous, even if their actions are a violation of the definition.
Adultery (weather consenting or not) is still crime in the military and other parts of the world. This in and of it's self may be a contributing factor.
Polyamory on the other hand is not as well known or understood in the alternative lifestyle spectra for new comers. I often equate swinging to the couples version of a one night stand. Where as polyamory is the couples version of becoming engaged and further coupled emotionally. For them, the concept of non-monogamy may seem second nature.
To me, what ever floats your boat. Have fun, live life to the fullest, stop getting hung up on labels. "Keep calm and fuck on."
Oct 11, 2018·
closet_slave
@NewdChris congratulations on finding your niche.
Oct 11, 2018·
NewdChris
@closet_slave
I want to clarify what you mean by versatile. I am more specifically oral versatile. I may not be totally versatile but definitely oral verse. I have done it ALL but generally I love 69 being my favorite!
I also want to let you know that you are also correct about the clubs not being friendly to guys. As far as I know the studios is friendly but the rooster is not.
I hope you didn't mind my little interjection. Keep up the good work here!
Oct 12, 2018
NewdChris
Thank you all so much for your time and comments on this post. I look forward to hearing from anyone else who may have another idea of the definition of bisexuality.
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