Part I - My article.
Part II – Miss G’s encouraging comments, who is a textile, but allows her mind to open up to my valid points. Part III – My comments back to hers.
As mature open-minded adults, we should already know how to conduct ourselves properly, but most textiles can’t decipher the difference between sexuality and nudity. These are unequivocally separate in the nudist community.
First of all, what is sex?
Quite simply an act or action.
Now, what is Nudity?
Per Wikipedia: “Nudity, or nakedness, is a state of being in which a person is not wearing clothing, or more specifically not covering their genitals.”
It is therefore not an action, but is a state of being, instead. A friendly lifestyle where participants choose to not wear useless coverings to hide from the world in shame while allowing themselves to feel the freedom of the breeze and sunlight to touch their bodies only wearing their NATURAL suit.
Now ask yourself if all clothing is non-sexual? Is it really?
You know the ones where the male genitals are showing by shape alone through underwear.
This can be seen in some women’s poses too, by the way she positions her legs.
The pictures that are described above have some real sexual connotations to them even though there is absolutely no nudity whatsoever.
Please remember that it is better not to use extremes. It is all about context.
Nudity is not always sexual
and
Clothing is not always non-sexual.
Understanding this properly, shows that clothing can be very sexual at times.
Why is it that people inappropriately tie nudity with sex without even thinking?
They should look at how the nude person is acting or what they are doing before they automatically pass inaccurate judgment using their own "blinded" sight. If you open your mind to other ideas and thoughts, then you will realize that nudity is not intrinsically sexual.
Now, being completely HONEST with yourself and me,
Which pics do you feel are more sexual in nature?
The 2 above?
OR
The one with 2 ladies and a man?
When you are ready to take a shower and nude, what kind of sex are you having?
If you’re in the bedroom and your partner is in bed, you are just standing in the room doing nothing at all, while nude, what kind of sex are you having?
NONE whatsoever!
Do you see my point?
There are many family-friendly nudist resorts where age does not play a factor.
Children and adults alike are engaging in similar activities that even you may perform around kids, just with no guards to hide behind, being safe and conducting themselves properly in a clean, wholesome, respectful manner and environment that protects our families.
Now, think of our children and how we always nurture and protect them. Our society feels the same way as the parents who make sure their children are safe and protected from any dangerous deviant acts. There are plenty of family-friendly nudist resorts who ALWAYS keep a watchful eye for perversion. They urgently handle any questionable actions or situations immediately!
Furthermore, we, nudists, are the friendliest accepting people you will EVER meet!
Moreover, children are intermingling with respectful family members in a safe,
NON-threatening environment. Everyone cohabitates safely with the whole family wherein everyone participates in safe, fun, children friendly and parents' approved activities. So ALL adhere to the same, safe, sane way of conducting their behavior, and there is always someone who keeps a watchful eye out for anything unsafe. With everyone being equal there is no reason whatsoever that anyone would need to conceal their wholesome natural bodies. There is no reason to, because children have the same bodies we do.
After all, haven't they seen themselves already?
So there is absolutely NOTHING to be concerned with, as all of us nudists look out for one another, especially everyone's children!
When children are raised properly around nudity they are not afraid of it, and therefore not ashamed of themselves. They accept their own bodies the same way we ALL should, with the proper dignity and respect towards everyone. Nudists are, in fact, very vigilant against shady people and any distasteful activity. They see the world in a respectful manner and exist in a clean wholesome environment that protects the entire family unit.
I will provide you the proper perspective on the human body so you can have proper respect for it.
First of all, you have laid eyes on the most beautiful entity you have ever seen.
The most intricate creation in the world:
The HUMAN BODY!
The second lucid point is,
why must you keep it hidden if everyone already knows what it entails?
Other than for protection, warmth, or a certain level of sanitation, you don’t!
All guys have their own equipment
and
All ladies have their own.
We ALL have seen BOTH!
BOTH bodies have their OWN inherent beauty regardless.
Since we all have already seen it, why can’t we just be open with ourselves?
We really should just be genuine about who we are to others and be proud of ourselves while having nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of.
So, how can people be disgusted by the sight of the beautiful human body?
Why assume, without merit, that someone is a pervert or sexual if they are nude? Perhaps, because of the illogical association with the very topic of this article,
Nudity and Sex!
Why cover yourself with artificial facades hiding who you truly are?
We are forced to live with our beautiful bodies covered hiding our innate beauty.
Why can’t society just allow us our own freedom of choice? No one is ever forced to look at nude bodies. Yet, instead of just ignoring the sight of one, the same way when we are covered, textiles will stare and gawk at buff bodies, which some are not even comfortable viewing. Its beyond me why textiles will look right at nudity, if they are not comfortable with it.
The $5 million question is:
Why leer, stare and gawk at nudity if it makes you feel UNCOMFORTABLE?!?!?
The nudist may also feel uncomfortable being gawked at!
So instead of performing the most logical action, ie, ignoring them and making BOTH of you comfortable, you textiles instead stare right at the nudist, in shock, hence making BOTH FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE!!
Then as if enough harm and embarrassment hasn't taken place, textiles will also notify the authorities to have nudists hauled away for NO reason at all. So nudists are the only ones punished for the textiles lack of respect AND self control while leering and being in shock seeing what they have seen before, as well as their own indiscretions.
.We should ALL just learn to accept each other for who we are and what we look like while we ALL live in unity, harmony and, yes, also peace together.
Would this not be a much more pleasant life for everyone?
If we all just did this, we would not even need clothes!
If humanity could be improved while having the utmost respect for each other,
then why cant we ALL just strip and free ourselves from our own inhibitions?
Summon your courage from deep within yourself and get the exhilarating & liberating feeling of freedom and be uninhibited once and for all.
That’s what I did for myself!
I just summoned my courage to try this wonderful emancipating experience and I was finally...
“OPEN & FREE!”
You must feel more comfortable with yourself and realize that we are all imperfect.
That’s exactly what makes us all unique human beings.
We, nudists, are the friendliest people you will ever meet. We look through your eyes at who you are as a person, not judge you by how you look on the outside. After all, we know the eyes are the windows to our souls, the very essence of who we are and what really counts.
One more thing you should consider is how we were all created.
Did our supreme designer have some flaw in his work when he made us?
Why is everything else considered beautiful, but our bodies must be covered in shame?
Nothing else created must be covered for reasons of indecency or any other reason.
Our bodies are, in fact, stunning but most societies restrict our fundamental liberties to coincide with their own narrow-minded views.
European nations are much freer about nudity.
In Spain, people are expected to cover up in certain situations, as in larger cities, it is just not illegal in Spain. The beaches, mostly in Germany and France, among others, are not actually “clothing optional” but you are still free to remove clothing at will.
In contrast, the USA has some very restrictive and unreasonable regulations in place regarding nudity. Most Americans turn their noses up at any kind of nudity. You can actually be arrested, jailed, and in some cases, have a permanent sexual offense if you are nude in a majority of places in the US. Only in certain secluded or hard to reach areas are you allowed to be nude. Even in these places, not everyone is nude. The so-called nude beaches can have most of the people wearing clothes like the ones that I have attended.
How is that really a nude beach?
Why would you bother going to a nude beach if you are NOT nude? If you want to wear clothes, then stay at a textile beach. There is NO purpose for you at a nude beach unless you are strictly there to stare and gawk at the patrons, making some feel uncomfortable. Save our space for the confident people who actually want to partake in the ritual of being comfortable tastefully exposing themselves.
I would love to live in a world where we all could have the freedom of choice and could just accept and love one another once and for all, someday. We could all live in a wonderful non-judgmental society that could accept each other and not judge ourselves strictly on the outer shell.
Do you agree that this world would be a much more respectable and freer place?
After all, what is more important, the outer shell or the inner person?
Do you agree?
Part II These comments are from a wonderful encouraging textile, Miss G, who allows herself to have an open mind and understand the points I have made in my article. Her comments have arrows pointing towards them.
Are nudity and sex synonymous in your life?
—> To a large degree, yes. Only because I haven’t been around nudism much. So to have a person disrobe before me is a signal in my delighted brain. “Ok, we’re going to have sex now.” Having said that, I did not feel this way when my parents were naked when I was a kid. And I do not feel this way when my daughter is naked around me. Both were natural and comfortable to me, and even endearing in ways. Sweet and bonding. It left me feeling they trusted/trust me and felt close to me and comfortable with me.
This is very obvious to me but in case you have a question in your mind, let me look at each one with you because I feel anyone should know this.
What is sex?
An act or action.
Nudity?
Perception or lifestyle. Also the state of wearing what you were born with.
—> Yes. But society has created our perception of nudity being sexual or “bad”. Criminal even. Shameful. Genitals and breasts as “forbidden fruit”. And so many of us see them and are titillated or shocked or just find it out of place. I like that you are challenging this thinking. I love to expand my mind and look at a thing from all facets. Ultimately I’d like to enjoy the freedom of nudism, particularly the freedom from poor body image that starts so young and has plagued me in many serious ways over the years.
Now ask yourself if ALL clothing is NON sexual?
Is it really?
I have seen more than a few types of clothed pictures that can have a real sexual connotation to them. If you saw the same pictures, you will also see that clothing can be very sexual at times, so why is it that people inappropriately equate nudity automatically with sex without even thinking. —> Good point! If anything, clothing can enhance the body’s image into that of a very sexual being. Or a very asexual being for that matter. Meanwhile naked is just naked. —> I’ve had the experience of seeing many naked pics of a man on a profile, and actually finding the clothed pic he happened to include as the sexiest of them all. It’s not that his body itself wasn’t sexy – it was – but that the less-is-more phenomenon came into play.
If you think about this topic intelligently and rationalize it, you can already see that it is different. If you can open your mind to other ideas and thoughts, you will see my points and make changes in your life to your way of thinking without any sexual connotations. —> Sounds logical.
When you are ready to shower in the nude, what kind of sex are you having? —> none
If you’re standing nude in the bedroom while your partner is in bed, and you are in the room doing nothing at all, what kind of sex are you having? —> None that is intentional. But I recall when married that I couldn’t be naked around my husband without feeling like a we object in his eyes. It’s fabulous to be desired, but sometimes I just wanted to get from the shower to dressed for work without feeling – is the word objectified?
Now think of your children and how you nurture and protect them. Most of society thinks and feels the same way. So why are there family friendly nudist resorts? —> my initial reaction right now was to recoil from this concept. Fear of predators…. I don’t even want their eyes on my child. However, I let myself imagine that the families are my good friends. Good protective parents that I need not fear. My mind nudged open a little.
At family friendly nudist resorts, children are intermingling with adults in a clean, safe, respectful, NON-threatening environment. If all of us could work together to keep children safe, there wouldn’t even be this unneeded taboo of having to hide ourselves from children that will see it anyway in due time at some point in their lives.
Furthermore, children have the same exact equipment as we ALL do.
—> my parents were quite naked even if we kids weren’t really. I was accustomed to it at 9-years-old when they divorced. I distinctly recall visiting my dad at his new apartment. He was naked, and on the phone talking with his new girlfriend. I was dressed. She asked him if he was naked in front of me. He said “yes, but Lena’s always seen me like this though”. His girlfriend somehow let him know it wasn’t appropriate. From that moment on I thought of nudity as a no-no. I literally recall looking at my dad’s naked body during that phone call thinking “Oh. This is a bad thing. Okay.” Never had my father ever in anyway been inappropriate toward me in a sexual manner. His girlfriend might have done well to mind her own damn business.
Raise your children properly with respect and pride in themselves, they would not be afraid of our bodies, they would just accept them the same way we should ALL accept each other properly in a clean wholesome respectful manner. —> Agreed. I was naked around both kids until my son began to protest. I respect his wishes and I am dressed. —> My daughter very much enjoys being nude. Sexuality is the farthest thing from her mind, she’s just more comfortable this way. It’s truly adorable to me. But her brother is, again, uncomfortable about it. So she makes efforts to respect his comfort zone. With me she can be herself.
I'm going to provide you with the proper perspective on the human body so you can have the proper respect for it.
First and foremost, you have seen the most beautiful creation on earth:
Our human body!
—> Many will get hung up on society’s definition of beauty at this point. I admit that I am. I think the human body is miraculous, but not necessarily always beautiful.
Second point is, what is the big secret if you already know what it consists of? —> Hmm. Miraculous body parts that allow us to enjoy this beautiful thing called life?
Why do you really need to hide it?
You don’t!
All guys have the same equipment
and then
gals have their own respective form.
Both bodies have their own inherent beauty regardless.
Since we ALL have seen it before,
then why cant we as a society just be ourselves while being free and open with our bodies?
You can be the real genuine person that you should be proud of and have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of. —> Getting to this point will take me more time and study. Sounds great though. Truly. —> One thing that stood out in the exhibitionist versus nudist article was this: “I can speak from a woman’s perspective that it’s the sexual objectification of the woman’s body since forever that makes it so hard to want to be naked in front of people.” —> Even if my body were “perfect” by society’s standards, I don’t necessarily want it scrutinized by others – positively or negatively – when I’m trying to relax at the beach. My understanding is that I’d calm down and adjust, but that is hard to believe. And that the scrutiny I expect won’t necessarily even be there. At the same time I’ve heard people mention displeasure or arousal about others’ bodies in the beach. Eeeek, that’s a little scary to me, Chris.
So I ask you how you can get disgusted by the sight of the beautiful human body.
—> I’m not, necessarily. I imagine nothing the bodies and politely not staring, and resisting judgment. At the same time we are human.
Are you feeling the same way about anything else God created?
—> Never. Good point.
Then why is the human anatomy the only exception? Why do you think that you should cover it with articles of clothing? You choose to live with our beautiful bodies covered up by artificial guards and facades that hide our true beauty and who we really are. We should accept each other. If we all just did this, we would not even need clothes.
—> society and church and custom trained us to sexualized and shame our nudity.
—> I might struggle to sit beside my man on a beach blanket while he felt very “naturally” aroused about naked women before his eyes. I admit this would possibly be a serious bummer.
If you agree with me at all, and how it can improve humanity, then you need to just do it! You need to feel more comfortable with yourself and others.
—> I can certainly see the potential freedom and joy in it.
One more thing you should consider, is how you were created and also how everything else was. Why is everything else beautiful?
—> this is a beautiful message
I would love to live in a world where we all could have the freedom of choice and all accept and love one another, and live in a wonderful society that could all not judge each other strictly on the outer shell. What about you?
—> hell yes
After all what is more important, the outer or inner person? Do you agree?
—> absolutely the inner self is more important, and the older I get the more I feel that.
Part III –
My comments back to hers. Hers are the large letters in italics and mine are the smaller ones.
I would like to sincerely thank you, Miss G, for your in-depth and comprehensive response. It is the most impressive reply I have ever gotten.
I am going to reply back in the same manner. Point by point.
Let's begin,
Miss G:
SOCIETY HAS CREATED OUR PERCEPTION OF NUDITY BEING SEXUAL OR “BAD”. CRIMINAL EVEN. SHAMEFUL. GENITALS AND BREASTS AS “FORBIDDEN FRUIT”. AND SO MANY OF US SEE THEM AND ARE TITILLATED OR SHOCKED OR JUST FIND IT OUT OF PLACE. I LIKE THAT YOU ARE CHALLENGING THIS THINKING. I LOVE TO EXPAND MY MIND AND LOOK AT A THING FROM ALL FACETS. ULTIMATELY I’D LIKE TO ENJOY THE FREEDOM OF NUDISM, PARTICULARLY THE FREEDOM FROM POOR BODY IMAGE THAT STARTS SO YOUNG AND HAS PLAGUED ME IN MANY SERIOUS WAYS.
Chris
This is a dam shame. It’s only because of our outdated ways of thinking from the puritanical days of the pilgrims. We need to update our thinking to present times and start to think in the 21st century. Why should certain aspects of our bodies be forbidden when we already know what’s hidden beneath the covers that we place on ourselves?
I’m glad that you want to open your mind and think from all angles, if we all could do this we would be in a much friendlier and accepting world. I really must ponder why we are the most closed minded society when it comes to this. Just look at Europe.
MY INITIAL REACTION RIGHT NOW WAS TO RECOIL FROM THIS CONCEPT. FEAR OF PREDATORS…. I DON’T EVEN WANT THEIR EYES ON MY CHILD. HOWEVER, I LET MYSELF IMAGINE THAT FAMILIES ARE MY GOOD FRIENDS. GOOD PROTECTIVE PARENTS THAT I NEED NOT FEAR. MY MIND NUDGED OPEN A LITTLE
If you get the courage to try just once to go to a family-friendly nudist resort, you would put your mind and ease and see that we are all safe from this worry and observe the other families and see just how much (or lack thereof) that people including children are in actuality NOT leered at or gawked at. Thanks for nudging your mind open a bit, that's all I'm asking and you can step in with one toe at a time if that makes you more comfortable.
MY PARENTS WERE QUITE NAKED EVEN IF WE KIDS WEREN’T REALLY. I WAS ACCUSTOMED TO IT AT 9-YEARS-OLD WHEN THEY DIVORCED. I DISTINCTLY RECALL VISITING MY DAD AT HIS NEW APARTMENT. HE WAS NAKED, AND ON THE PHONE TALKING WITH HIS NEW GIRLFRIEND. I WAS DRESSED. SHE ASKED HIM IF HE WAS NAKED IN FRONT OF ME. HE SAID “YES, BUT LENA’S ALWAYS SEEN ME LIKE THIS THOUGH”. HIS GIRLFRIEND SOMEHOW LET HIM KNOW IT WASN’T APPROPRIATE. FROM THAT MOMENT ON I THOUGHT OF NUDITY AS A NO-NO. I LITERALLY RECALL LOOKING AT MY DAD’S NAKED BODY DURING THAT PHONE CALL THINKING “OH. THIS IS A BAD THING. OKAY.” NEVER HAD MY FATHER EVER IN ANYWAY BEEN INAPPROPRIATE TOWARD ME IN A SEXUAL MANNER. HIS GIRLFRIEND MIGHT HAVE DONE WELL TO MIND HER OWN DAMN BUSINESS.
I agree this girlfriend should have kept her dam mouth shut by all means.
If you and your father were ok with it, then who is she to instill her morals and beliefs upon you? You went further to indicate that your relationship with your father was totally appropriate. So what was the problem until she stuck her nose where it didn’t belong?
AGREED. I WAS NAKED AROUND BOTH KIDS UNTIL MY SON BEGAN TO PROTEST. I RESPECT HIS WISHES AND I AM DRESSED.
Children only emulate what they are taught, so I am curious why your son would even protest. He had to have some influence from his dad or school or somewhere.
SEXUALITY IS THE FARTHEST THING FROM HER MIND, SHE’S JUST MORE COMFORTABLE THIS WAY.
Exactly my point this is the way I feel more comfortable too, it had absolutely NOTHING to do with sex or sexuality at all.
MANY WILL GET HUNG UP ON SOCIETY’S DEFINITION OF BEAUTY AT THIS POINT. I ADMIT THAT I AM. I THINK THE HUMAN BODY IS MIRACULOUS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL.
My argument is simply this:
Who created us ( human bodies)? more than likely the answer is god.
Good, if so, then does a supreme omnipotent being make mistakes?
If our bodies are mistakes, then he is not so omnipotent or supreme, is he?
If not, then, why is everything else he created beautiful except our bodies?
Beauty is always subjective. “eye of the beholder”
SOCIETY AND CHURCH AND CUSTOM TRAINED US TO be SEXUALIZED AND SHAME OUR NUDITY.
Again this is what we must move away from. old thinking old times, fresh thinking fresh views. Can you imagine if technology stood back and never developed, Where would we be?
I MIGHT STRUGGLE TO SIT BESIDE MY MAN ON A BEACH BLANKET WHILE HE FELT VERY “NATURALLY” AROUSED ABOUT NAKED WOMEN BEFORE HIS EYES. I ADMIT THIS WOULD POSSIBLY BE A SERIOUS BUMMER.
Only if he is thinking in a purely sexual context, but nudists do not think like this. I have heard that it usually doesn’t happen and it's something that can’t be helped if it does. I have heard both ways, either cover it up with a towel or go into the water, OR it's a natural bodily function with us men and just not pay attention to it. We have very little control of it if any at all.
I CAN CERTAINLY SEE THE POTENTIAL FREEDOM AND JOY IN IT.
You don’t know how correct you are! Once you try it you will love it and never go back. Once I have skinny-dipped I now refuse to wear a suit.
Wearing something in the water is the most ridiculous absurd thing I have ever heard.
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLIMENTS
ABSOLUTELY THE INNER SELF IS MORE IMPORTANT, AND THE OLDER I GET THE MORE I FEEL THAT.
Then it's been settled you need to go out and just do it as I did.
AS they say, you go girl!!!
“Nudism has been hidden away for far too long. It's time people were allowed to live their lives as they want rather than be dictated to.” – Roland Brown
Miss G says, “Chris you are a fabulous spokesperson for nudism. So encouraging and kind. Not to mention adorable. I have a vision of me naked in the bushes with only one toe peeking out. Soon two. Later three. You get the picture. Meanwhile my naked friend Chris lays/sleeps in the sun patiently waiting.”
I have also written this under a different title originally,
To wit:
You should do it nudely not lewdly.